Yes.. they feel like human touch.. now remember once my army colleagues and me camped in our office (all clerks and me asst chief clerk) My chief clerk is hindu (typical) places idols and stuff on her PC.. even made me change her PC's wallpaper to show one of the indian deities.. and usually I sleep just beside my desk... (cos my area wat) but was taken up by a NS man, so nevermind.. i used my superior's area.. so i position the foldable bed in a way that when I sleep my head will be under the desk.. So after a long evening everyone went to sleep.. including me.. i was almost falling into sub consciousness... when i felt someone gently touching my stomach area.. that woke me up.. opened my eyes.. check.. no one leh... and no one cannot possibly move so fast to hide also.. so I closed my eyes.. and went back to sleep.. and it happened again... so I again opened my eyes.. no one again and I just mutter.. please.. don't disturb leh.. very tired.. then it happen for the third time.. this time round I did wat a christian would do.. face my palms at the directions of the idols on the PC... Pleaded the blood of Jesus.. and by His Name to bind every spirit and be cast away.. and that did the trick.. slept peacefully till next morning...

about the voice of them.. I heard them too.. i used to sleep on the upper deck of the dbl deck bed.. and somemore against the window grille of the room next to the corridor.. and usually sleep wif the window panes open.. heard in my sub consciousness.. people's laughter.. female and male... a group of them.. and it sounds hollow.. no substance.. (btw my neighbour is a chinese medium, VERY Sianz.. lots of incensce ppr being burnt, YEs!! lotsa smoke.. no need to smoke can get lung cancer) seen a upstairs neighbour being manhandled in the wee hours to my next door.. (she was possessed) kept mutterin "wa ai see" i wanna die in hokkien... and then all the noisy rituals... sigh... can't sleep.. wif them around...

and i realised that (i donno whether u call it 6 sense or wat) twice when my eldest bro (now in changi hilton) hitted one of the neighbourhood gang head's younger bro.. needless to say the elder bro can knocking wif henchmen in tow.. the 6 sense part was this.. I be sleeping soundly then all of a sudden sit up right on the bed.. will be looking out of my window and out in to the corridor.. and seconds later.. the gangster and his men will come down from the stair case (can't hear them coming down) but i can see that the gangster will be resting his elbows on the parapet wall and motion his men to "knock"...

I'll be sitting on my bed with my swiss army knife with the skewer thingy out.. prepared to poke any arms that try to assault the window.. but amazingly it seems that both occasions, i detected them before visually seeing them, they did not notice me.. and the same goes with this fella trying to peep through my window... to look at my sis whom was in the kitchen.. I just sat on my bed staring at him.. not making any noise.. and this happened for another 15 to 20 secs before he looked up and saw me looking at him.. he just bolted.. made me laugh.. found it stupid to do such a cheap thing..

oh ya. about the being frenching by a spirit.. i think sucking is a more apt word.. (reminds me of movie spirit will try to suck yang chi to gain energy) can't see 'em..

Now on thailand..

Well.. not much of any encounters of the spiritual kind but sexual alot.. (i will not talk about the latter) basically thai people are very respectful of buddha, the monarchy, monks, spirits. and they will not tolerate any incidences of insults or joke to any of the 1st three... king rama V (king rama IX, bumiphol) is regarded as a demi god to most thai and they even wear his pendant, car sticker on their dashboard, it too is sometimes referred to the cult of king rama V.

I personally seen in bangkok (BKK) and in kanchanaburi (K'buri) thai ppl holding joss stick, flower chain thingy, goin to some tree which has lots of flower chain thingy around it, and some colorful cloth tied around the tree.. What are they doin?? Well.. armed with the above and 2 more items... oil and powder.. and they will find a spot on the tree and just rub.. FOR WAT?? well... numbers.. YEs!! 4D.. some actually struck b4..

In thailand, monks are called up for alot of things.. and one of them is to bless the camp during the day.. (it happened 3 times in my camp, camp anniversary, christmas cum new year celebration) basically they will sit one row side by side on this make shift platform (quite nicely done by the Royal Thai Army Support Sect) recite thai buddhist incantations while passing a white rope (those used to tie parcels) and they will hold the rope in their palms (supposed to connect their power to be as one) after that they will bless the ppl wif holy water using a wisk splashing all... that's the day part.. and the night celebration is totally different 180 degree thingy.. cabaret show at the Multi purpose hall.. with a strip show as a finale... was initially shocked.. but my friends told me.. welcome to Amazing Thailand...

There also the golden boy thingy.. a fetus is 'roasted' above coals and incense.. and a monk (a renegade monk, no proper monk is supposed to dabble in black magicks, and is punishable my jail sentence, but there is one who still dabble in it for the money) will be reciting incantations to remind the spirit to be obedient and to listen to the owner.. Also hear about my camp mates hunting around for the best talisman pendant... and if you seen some thai nationals or some singaporean actually wear lots of talisman pendant.. and there is supposed to be a combination as some of the gods do not like each other and will 'fight' it out causing some harm to the wearer.. some pendants value depends on the monk who 'empowers' it. More a monk performs a miracle (enlightenment), more qualification he has in empowering a pendant. same goes for the thai talisman tattooing thingy at Nakorn Chaisi.. the person who had the tattoo done will be empowered by the creature that was tattooed on to his/her body... and normally they will behave as if in a trance and very aggressive.. the tattoo has lots of talisman on it.. believe to give the person power to stop knife cuts and even bullets.. but he/she must lead a clean life.. if commits any crime.. the talisman will lose it's power..

Love potions are rumoured to be oils extracted from the chin of the dead. and made into potions.

BTW did you see the movie Nang Nak (Miss Nak) If not I have the vcd original thai not cencored.. (don't tell censorship board!!).. the story is true over a 150 years old and the shrine is supposed to be near her burial site or home... sge has a shrine all to herself some where along sukhumvit soi 50+ to 70+ (sukhumvit road stretches all the from BKK till PTTY). seen the pics.. Mae Nak (mother nak) will be sitting in cross legs and cradling her baby in her arms. (and the idol is usually pasted with gold leaf by devotees) most pray for numbers... and have some friends who have seen things during their stay in some hotels..

One stayed at this Rio Residence Hotel. (our resident hotel in BKK) with a couple of friends.. (all campmate, all have rooms to themselves, so can bring girl back from what ever place, where ever place).. this particular guy stayed opposite this room which has a thai styled talisman (which is usually swirls of white 'flour'? in a pryramidically order..) on the door..

They were getting set for their night hunt so all closing their doors.. so happen this fella (who sleep directly opposite) saw some thing (looked like female, and obviously not human) seemingly struggling to get out from the door, but getting nowhere.. So then his friends remarks 'Wah so big ah!' and the fella replied 'you all see it too?!!?' but later realised that they were referrin to the talisman and not wat he has seen!!! (and that's the OH SHIT part!!) Later, when he tried to sleep (he told us this story so.. I told him to on the tv.. and put MTV on to make u sleep.. and thats what he tried and cursed and swored) the TV some how suddenly became loud and then soft and then loud again... he told us that the whole night he was tormented.. and the next day changed the hotel.. (We actually asked the recept (close friend and a gf of a colleague) 'bout the door and spirit) she just remarked it's settled! but Settled in wat sense!? oh ya, just outside the hotel has it 4 faced buddha... reputed to keep spirits out.. (and they can't leave the building too)

and the thai seldom quarrel.. why?? they are afraid to offend the house spirit.. They also believe in spirit houses there are lots of these along the roads and just outside of their houses. The biggest ones I've seen are outside Mahboonkrong shopping centre.. with teak elephants flanking the side of the houses...

I also realize that the pontianak and nang nak have some similarities and in both folk lore, it’s believed that women who die whilst child birth are the most fiercest as it involves 2 spirits and not one..

About Nang Nak, I have heard this from someone (Whether Nang Naak was a real person or just a fabrication is still as mysterious as the myth itself. There is no historical evidence of her existence. However, most Thais tend to believe her story is genuine, or at least some parts are. Popular legend tells that she was born in the Phra Khanong area of Bangkok about a hundred and thirty years ago during the later period of King Rama IV (1851 - 1868) and died of childbirth complications some eighteen years later in the early part of King Rama V's regime (1868 - 1910). Others assume that she lived during the reign of King Rama III (1841 - 1851). Some believers even date her presence back to more than two hundred years ago in mid-eighteen century Ayutthaya.)